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5800+ Song Limit Removal for 1.22b and below, Improved Audio Quality for old FW

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Post time 2015-9-23 06:39:07 |Show all posts |
Edited by RebeccaSugar at 2015-9-23 07:25

This is only for people who really care about their sound, if you don't consider yourself a music enthusiast or a music molestor, then don't bother, as you likely won't hear a difference, the difference is NOT subtle though.


Since I couldn't stand more than 5 minutes of the horrible, horrible music quality on the newer firmwares with scratchier treble and looser bass (1.3 and up) I decided to try a little something, and it worked!
Now I'll be here to teach you about it if you are very picky about your music and want the best sound for your X1, since the newer FW's defeats the very existence of the player and makes me want to smash it into a thousand pieces, or return it and pay a little extra for an X3 or something.



Anyway, here goes.

1.) Update your player (this will be temporary) with This FW, Use a FAT32 formatted SD to upgrade, if you already have one, then don't bother formatting.
If you ARE going to format, then back up your music and use rufus, from step 2.

Just follow the instructions to upgrade.
P.S, If you've already updated and scanned, skip to step 3.

2.) After you've updated, make sure to scan all of your music with "System Settings > Media Update Lib"
Give it a few minutes to scan all of your tracks.
(If you have 10,000 songs or more, format it as exFAT then re-scan it, if you still have the limit with exFAT, let me know, I use Rufus to format by the way, 16kb or 32kb cluster size is fine)

Get rufus right here

3.) Now you are going to use an older firmware with, ironically, better sound.
If you have formatted it as FAT32, then simply get an older FW that is 1.22b and below that doesn't have gimped sound.

This is the one I'm currently using.  Workzone by Reelgirly
Feel free to use any others around that FW.

If you have it formatted as exFAT with all of your music on it, then use a different card formatted as FAT32 to save yourself the trouble of re-writing the entire card.

Now just download your desired FW and re-update, well...err- downgrade.

Technically an upgrade with music quality, you know what I mean.

4.) Once you've updated/downgraded, then go to the "Now Playing" option and click any song, once you do, you'll notice the 5800 limit isn't there anymore AND you'll have very good music quality compared to the newer firmwares.

5.)This step doesn't come until you add new music.
Sadly, everything has its sacrifices, you may have defeated the 5800 limit, but you'll have to re-update and re-scan then re-downgrade every time you add music.

So what you should do is, have two different x1.fw files, have the 1.5 fw file in your current SD, and have the 1.22b and below on another SD, so when you update the newer FW, you could scan then and there without removing your SD card, after you scan, shut off your player and use the other SD and downgrade, then re-insert the first one.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

5.) Enjoy, discuss and report any BSOD's you get, if any.
I get them at times, but nobody has had this problem other than me, so you should be good!

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  Very clever! I see, by updating the media library while the "no 5800 limit" is in place, and then going back to an older FW, but NOT scanning again, you have defeated the whole 5800 track limit??? Awesome!

  Of course, you should mention, that anytime you add any music, you will have to do this whole process over again, right?
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Post time 2015-9-23 07:08:44 |Show all posts |
samandhi replied at 2015-9-23 07:02
Very clever! I see, by updating the media library while the "no 5800 limit" is in place, and then  ...

Well, sh!t, I didn't think of that.



Welp, gonna have to add that then.
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  This trick, having worked, makes me wonder if being told that "the whole code has to be re-written", was not the complete truth. If it were, this should NOT work.

  Have you tried to actually listen to some of the songs that were previously not even showing up, or did you just see it in the "About" screen?
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Post time 2015-9-23 07:29:03 |Show all posts |
Edited by RebeccaSugar at 2015-9-23 07:32
samandhi replied at 2015-9-23 07:20
This trick, having worked, makes me wonder if being told that "the whole code has to be re-written ...

Nope, they all work. Even the ones supposedly limited by the 128 song byte length.

I used to get 11235 but now I get 12215, which is to say, all of them.

Of course some songs still glitch for some reason, but those always did.
The ones that never played play now, but then again, it was the ones that didn't play with playlist for some reason, I haven't come by any issues yet.

I'm still testing for any possible problems and unsupported songs, I've just assumed the 128 byte limit has been lifted as well, since now it detects them and plays the ones with long names.
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I have one more question. Some X1 (mine :-)) came originally with FW1.4. As far as I know they are not down compatible with FW 1.3 and lower. Do you think it will work for me? Would I brick my DAP or it would not let me downgrade/upgrade
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  Oh, nice! Some undocumented changes too it would seem... hehe
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Post time 2015-9-23 07:59:11 |Show all posts |
Wojciech replied at 2015-9-23 07:34
I have one more question. Some X1 (mine :-)) came originally with FW1.4. As far as I know they are n ...

Oh! I know this, check right Here, sir.

Now, on your FiiO, go to "System Settings > About X1"

If it says "NB:M442a" or has a number above that in the lower right screen, then I regret to inform you that it will not work with your FiiO, but if it is like mine, with "V342a" then it will indeed work, even with v1.4 installed.

Make sure it is lower than "M442a", if it is, then you're golden.
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RebeccaSugar replied at 2015-9-23 07:59
Oh! I know this, check right Here, sir.

Now, on your FiiO, go to "System Settings > About X1"

Thanks, mine is M442a so no go for me unfortunately. But I must admit, nice catch
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BTW: FiiO, can you pretty please respond to the audio-quality issues on the X1 since FW 1.3?
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Post time 2015-9-26 02:08:58 |Show all posts |
Edited by Tatabanya at 2015-9-26 02:12

@ RebeccaSugar: do you know if there is someone who upgraded the 1.22b fw with larger fonts? I'd love to use that firmware for its better sound now that you defeated the 5800 limit so cleverly, but I am at ease with a modified 1.5 fw I downloaded from a link posted in Head-Fi.org which comprises LARGE fonts (I can't see the little ones without glasses!) - Any idea? (And no - I can't do it myself )
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Edited by RebeccaSugar at 2015-9-26 07:42
Tatabanya replied at 2015-9-26 02:08
@ RebeccaSugar: do you know if there is someone who upgraded the 1.22b fw with larger fonts? I'd lov ...

Of course!

Here we are.

Reelgirly's mod from http://www.fiio.me/forum.php?mod ... &extra=page%3D1

https://mega.nz/#!9oRlVCgK!CVl9w ... ngzH2ayx9Vec8KBnlFE


TCD1975's mod from http://www.fiio.me/forum.php?mod ... ht=1.22b&page=1

https://mega.nz/#!B95WTZZD!9vctS ... NthUp-l_HQHh2ZPcfok
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That's absolutely sweet of you. Many thanks!
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Thanks for all guys. In theory, the sound quality depends on the hardware, not the firmware.  I will repsonse this issue to our engineers. Hope they will fix it in next firmware.
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Edited by BruceBanner at 2015-9-28 03:21

As far as I know - directly from FiiO is - that with NB M422a certain changes in hardware regarding sd-card/slot happened. I don't think different hardware going to use exact the same voltage and ampere, so obviously with FW 1.3 changes were introduced to support new hardware.

Maybe somehow this passively affected the amp in some way... or an engineer accidently had it's fingers touching amp-parameters.... you should revisit the firmwares sys.bin from 1.22 and compare amp-parameters.

You should investigate this.... because i think anything regarding bad audio quality can ruin your reputation efforts significantly and therefore impact sales. You should care more, I don't think such incident should remain open and be cleared ASAP.
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Edited by RebeccaSugar at 2015-9-28 05:43
BruceBanner replied at 2015-9-28 03:19
As far as I know - directly from FiiO is - that with NB M422a certain changes in hardware regarding  ...

I'd really like two different FW Hardware versions; One for M422a and the other for Non-M422a products, that way the audio quality for Non-M422a products doesn't suffer, while still supporting the newer hardware.

I haven't heard M422a myself, so I can't judge the audio quality, maybe this only affects non-m422a devices while keeping the other one relative sane? No clue, if someone with both is able to test it, that would be beautiful.
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RebeccaSugar replied at 2015-9-28 05:41
I'd really like two different FW Hardware versions; One for M422a and the other for Non-M422a produ ...

Good point. It would be nice to know. Now we have to wait for somebody with both X1 versions
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Edited by BruceBanner at 2015-9-28 06:45

Since old NB and new NB still have the SAME AMP... using the newer FW will result in same audio-quality for all devices.

The flaw - just stating the obvious - is in the FW.

All are affected by the FW changes the same,, it's just newer NB cannot flash old FW because of having the newer card-slot. This is know as downwards-incompatibility.

I assume that the audio-quality-flaw has nothing to do with the newer hardware at all... but just something AMP-related have been touched... undocumented for the user... during that time when slot-hw changed.
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BruceBanner replied at 2015-9-28 06:40
Since old NB and new NB still have the SAME AMP... using the newer FW will result in same audio-qual ...

That might be as well by all means. But it never hurts to cross check. On the other hand why would they touch amp settings while changing SD card slot?
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Reasons?

Efforts in reducing battery consumption and some genius decided it sounds alrighty then, or thinking nobody will notice....

Compiling errors because of new or modified (updated) libs...

Forgot some parameters to setup in fw-config system after the "code re-write"...

Accident...

...

Why would one drive in a car against a bridge-pillar.... willingly... on the first thought, it seems not to make sense... but nobody said it was the will to do so, on second thought theres lot of stuff beeing reasonable for such act, like lot of alcohol and poor driving skills.

Now lets apply this to FiiO-engineers... oh wait, the manager ... i better dont ;) All said...

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